I know this is a common question, but I have a BRS with the serial # 108425. I cannot find a date listing for these numbers. I am curious if it is a good investment to have it repaired and tuned. It has a broken front leg on the console, and the board looks and sounds a little rough. My understanding is that this was a very popular piano during the years before WWII. Should I repair or look for something else?Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)Re: Betsy Ross Spinet Serial Number08/05/07 12:29 AM 08/05/07 12:29 AMJoined: Aug 2004Posts: 136.
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Getting back to the 'rarified' air of Piano Forums. The Betsy Ross spinet was not the greatest sounding little piano owing to its size, but it was a workhorse. I had one through college along with the family's Baldwin grand.
I played the snot out if it. The greatest worry with the Betsy Ross (and other spinets of this vintage) is that they used a rather primitive plastic elbow in the drop-action. These tend to become brittle and break. There are replacements, but the cost of installation can be high.
Other than that they were well-built like most of Lester's products.JohnRe: Betsy Ross Spinet Serial Number08/05/07 03:52 AM 08/05/07 03:52 AMJoined: Nov 2006Posts: 1,565. Lofops-I'm not a technician, but I'll add to this that I own a Betsy Ross spinet. I bought it for $50 in order to have a second piano for my three kids to practice on. It had two down keys when I got it, and those were inexpensively replaced when my technician came to tune my other piano.
My technician discouraged me from putting more money into it because of how little my children would truly get out of practicing on it. I was a little offended at first, but I have come to realize he was right. Another note has a broken elbow, and that is a constant concern when playing it with any loudness at all. They all avoid playing it, so it hasn't had the desired result of relieving the time constraints on our Yamaha UX3. I guess for the price it has been an okay investment, but it's really only used for scales and basic sightreading. I think it was a good, strong piano in its day, but the years have not made it very reliable, something I can attest to as an owner.Nancy. Nancy, I checked on the price of a new set of elbows, and they are are $23.45 for a set of 90.
If you only spent $50 on the piano, you might ponder having a set installed. Even if it cost another $200, you are still bucks ahead and the poor little spinet just might go another 25 years or better. I played advanced Chopin and the Tchaikowsky Concerto on mine. When properly set up they will take some abuse. Just a thought.JohnRe: Betsy Ross Spinet Serial Number08/05/07 02:54 PM 08/05/07 02:54 PMJoined: Nov 2006Posts: 1,565.
New to pianos.Any information would be appreciated. I got a free (freecycle.org) piano, in “fine” shape by the ‘bluebook’ guide. It is a Lester Betsy Ross Spinet. By browsing the forums it doesn’t seem to be a popular model. (but the bluebook seems to rate it well quality wise) But space wise and cost wise it will do.
First, welcome to the forum!And now the sad news, I'm afraid. It's now 50+ years old, and was an entry-level piano when it was new. At the minimum, all of the elbows need to be replaced with the modern, clear plastic; this was the era when plastic didn't have longevity (as it does now). Get an honest evaluation from your technician, and determine whether it's worth investing further in it.Generally speaking, without having seen this particular piano, an instrument of this quality and in this condition can be a serious obstacle to any student, especially a beginner. Learning to play involves learning fine motor coordination. It's likely that the pressure required to move each key down varies greatly across the keyboard.
This is like walking down steps where each step is a different height. If the piano teacher would have difficulty playing the instrument, doubly so for a beginner.This is a situation where renting a new piano, or even a digital keyboard, would give your children a better chance to learn.
Imagine having a 50-year-old car and trying to learn to drive!-Cy. How hard is it to DIY the actions to new plastic? I am guessing they can't be too expensive. I am mechanically inclined.Like I said the piano was free, if it only takes alittle work to make it servicable I am for it. Plus it was not fun moving it from the house I got it into mine.I am not even sure my kids will play it they are currently only 1 and 3, we just got it to see if we could peek some interest.Again I have never played a piano so I am not quite sure about what Cy was saying about it being difficult to play, I have always had the motto, 'it is a poor carpenter that blames his tools'. Not that I don't appreciate the input, I just don't understand it. Woudln't someone who could play well on this piano 'light it up' on a better one?Rich, what would a 'good' beginner upright/spinet cost?
Find Schaff piano & order a set of replacement elbows (plastic) with the 'slot'. I'm not at the store or I'd give you the phone and part numbers. Its an easy fix. Just break the damaged elbows. That's easy since they're so brittle anyway. This leaves the pin in place. Simply screw the new elbow on the metal rod & snap it in place.
You can adjust the mechanism with the nut at the top of the rod. Screw it down until the hammer begins to lift, but not quite. This gets rid of lost motion. You don't want the hammer sitting on the rail if you're depressing the key. I believe the whoe set is under $10 & its fun to do if you like this kind of stuff. Good luck & welcome, Graybeard.
If you were learning to type, would it help or hinder you if the 'e', 'c', and 'i' keys stuck sometimes, or you had to push them sideways to make them go down? Would learning on that keyboard make you better at a good keyboard?Sure, you don't blame the tools, but that's for an experienced carpenter. We've all had cars with quirks, for example: pushing a certain way to get it into reverse; a tendency to pull left when braking; play in the steering wheel; stalling when turning left at an intersection if it's cold. As experienced drivers, we can deal with all this, but these problems just add to the hurdles a beginning driver faces.But as you say, your kids are young; you've got a couple of years to work on it yet!I just hate to see promising students frustrated by a poor instrument.-Cy. If you can fix the elbows and it will hold tune, why not hang on to this piano?I used to play a Betsy Ross for choir rehearsals. The choir now uses a digital. For some peculiar reason I find the bad spinet easier to play.
I don't see that a beginning four or five year old will outrun the capabilities of this piano. As the children advance you'll buy something else and use the Betsy Ross as a second piano for duets and piano concertos.Tuners told me that these pianos are full of false beats and are a bear to tune. It may be hard to find someone eager to work on it.'
.stalling when turning left at an intersection.' Cy, did you have a four cylinder Chrysler product in your past?
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This is an interesting question is it worth fixing or should i just sell it?Here is some good advice: betsy ross spinets and spinets in general, especially old ones, and new ones too, that may have plastic elbows and action parts partake of something that we call: more trouble that it is worth.Now, if you can talk someone into giving you a few $$ for it, take the money and run, don't walk.RUN.Now the other side.there is always someone that will tell you that 'it could be fixed up'. Fixed up for what? Probably not because: it probably needs tuning, regulation, new everything and the cost is not cost-efficient i.e why would someone spend $750 on a spinet and then sell it for almost nothing. On the other hand one could become 'the savior of old spinets', but the treasures will all be in heaven.not on the planet.Essentially spinets are throwaways, giveaways, piano smashes for $.50/smash, or heavy trash pickup.Now if one gets teary-eyed and wants to 'save' it.then that will be a good hobby and introduction to piano technology.which in effect, will make you want to never work on pianos again.I hope this little note will be read with interest and will cause you to become the advocate of the destruction of all spinets.The two best spinets were built by yamaha and baldwin. The baldwin acrosonic is still a good piano IF it has been maintained.
The Yamaha is not built anymore because Yamaha didn't need an entry level spinet. The Baldwin has a drop action and heaven forbid that anyone would have to work on it because you have to remove the complete action.that means ANY spinet has a drop action wich means it is an EXPENSIVE piano. Not because of quality but because a tech will not take the time to work on these unless you PAY THEM. WELL.Yamaha had the best.but again Yamaha stopped production about 1960.there are still a few around and are quite good.
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But the Japanese figured it out that spinets are things that people do not want.As for all of the other brands of spinets? Almost any old upright is better.Spinets?